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Jim Andris and Peggy Burge: Distant Fickeisen Cousin by MarriageI have always appreciated the e-mail that I received from Peggy Burge in 2001, and I hope Peggy won't mind my sharing it below. Peggy's genealogical information is quite complex, but there are some interesting facts that emerge. The main fact is that we are just distant cousins by marriage. In a phrase, my great grandmother's brother Charlie Fickeisen married the sister, Rosena Glicher, of Peggy's grandfather, Henry Gilcher. But, this distant relationship is not to be sneezed at! For one thing, my mother is in possession of a picture of Peggy's grand aunt Rosena together with husband, Charlie. And we know quite a bit about Charlie, that he played in the Cow Run Band, that he had four children. Some of the stories that mom has told are not all that complementary of the relationship between Charlie Fickeisen and his sister, my grandmother, Eva Fickeisen Noe. Perhaps the most significant contribution of the Johann Fredrich William Gilcher (1802-1873) descendant chart below is that it forms an important part of the history of the German Community out on Pleasant Ridge in Washington Co., Ohio. There are many listings of various spellings of Gilcher from the Rhineland-Pfalz area in the International Genealogical Index. It is also clear that there is a complex intertwining of the names Gilcher, Fickeisen, Noe, Zimmer, and several others. The E-mail MessageFrom: Peggy Burge To: <jandris@siue.edu> Date: Friday, November 30, 2001 10:59 PM Subject: My connection to Jacob Gilcher Hi Jim, This is some of the information I have on the Gilcher family line. I am the daughter of Carl Russell (wife Dorothy Geiling Batteiger) , son of Henry (wife Josephine Dugan and Ivy Alloway) , son of Frederick (wife Caroline Zimmer), son of Johann Frederick W. Jacob (wife Julia) was also the son of Frederick (wife Caroline). I have copies of his pension files which included a copy of the family's emigration papers from Kusel. I have little detail other than dates and places. Almost no pictures or facts but would love to have copies of anything that you do have. Maria Renner was the wife of Johann Zimmer the father of Caroline Zimmer who married Frederick. I look forward to hearing from you. As always a cousin, Peggy Gilcher Burge Descendants of Johann Friedrich William Gilcher 1 Johann Friedrich William Gilcher 1802 - 1873 .. +Maria Luisa Margaret Metzger 1802 - 1884 ......... 2 Elisabetha Gilcher 1829 - 1829 ......... 2 Catharina Gilcher 1831 - 1902 ............. +Jacob A. Schram 1830 - .................... 3 Catherine Schram 1851 - 1885 ........................ +O. P. Greer ............................... 4 Edna Greer ................................... +Wallace Porter .................... 3 George Schram .................... 3 James Schram .................... 3 Henry Schram .................... 3 Edward Schram .................... 3 Ida Schram .................... 3 Jerome Schram .................... 3 Algernon Schram .................... 3 Mary Schram .................... 3 Amanda Schram .................... 3 Nelson Schram ......... 2 Frederich Gilcher 1833 - 1913 ............. +Caroline Elizabetha Zimmer 1844 - 1899 .................... 3 Infant Gilcher - 1899 .................... 3 Infant Gilcher - 1899 .................... 3 Frederick William Gilcher 1863 - 1935 ........................ +Mary Edith Stanhope 1863 - 1906 ............................... 4 Freddie Horatio Gilcher 1889 - 1965 ................................... +Myrtle Edna Doty 1890 - ............................... 4 Bertha Viola Gilcher 1893 - 1935 ................................... +I. Inlow Burton 1879 - ........................................... 5 Opal Winona Burton 1915 ............................................... +Reo Frank Coghill 1914 ........................................... 5 Ruth Vivian Burton 1917 ............................... *2nd Husband of Bertha Viola Gilcher: ................................... +Ragnvold Johannes Rotvold 1885 -1956 ........................................... 5 Clarence Rotvold 1920 -1975 ........................................... 5 Norman Rotvold 1922 - ........................................... 5 Margaret Rotvold 1924 - ............................................... +Leon Fred Carrette 1923 - ........................................... 5 Marilyn Rotvold 1928 - ............................................... +Robert Glen Mc Cann 1927 - .................... *2nd Wife of Frederick William Gilcher: ........................ +Lennie Rosalea Darling 1865 - .................... 3 Elizabeth Gilcher 1867 - 1931 ........................ +George Franklin Jr. Scherber 1865 - 1947 ............................... 4 Charlotte Caroline Scherber 1891 - 1977 ............................... 4 Theora Ann Scherber 1894 - 1977 ................................... +George Brady Doan 1895 - 1942 ........................................... 5 Lila E. Doan 1922 - ............................................... +Hill ........................................... *2nd Husband of Lila E. Doan: ............................................... +Harvey Martin ........................................... 5 Robert B. Doan 1924 - ........................................... 5 James F. Doan 1932 - .................... 3 Daniel Gilcher 1869 - 1944 ........................ +Caroline Motz 1873 - 1961 ............................... 4 Harman W. Gilcher 1894 - 1925 ........................................... 5 Gladys Irene Gilcher ............................................... +Oakie Junior Smarr 1923 - ........................................... 5 Florene Gilcher ............................................... +Victor Horst ........................................... 5 Ruth Gilcher ............................... 4 Jacob Elmer Gilcher 1896 - 1923 ............................... 4 Goldie M. Gilcher 1900 - 1923 ................................... +Leroy Earl Seckel 1899 - ........................................... 5 Ronald Seckel ........................................... 5 Junior Joe Seckel .................... 3 Louise Elica Gilcher 1870 - 1933 ........................ +Charles Eifler 1869 - ............................... 4 Myrtle Eifler 1900 - ............................... 4 Thomas Eifler 1901 - ............................... 4 Hattie Eifler 1903 - .................... 3 Rosena Gilcher 1872 - 1955 ........................ +Charles Fickeisen 1870 - ............................... 4 Foreman Fickeisen 1892 - 1955 ............................... 4 Freeman Fickeisen 1893 - 1955 ............................... 4 Dora Fickeisen 1894 - 1954 ................................... +Joseph M. Farson 1890 - 1967 ........................................... 5 Norma E. Farson - 1967 ........................................... 5 Phyllis Jean Farson 1921 - 1980 ............................... 4 Norma Fickeisen 1900 - 1955 ................................... +Erb ............................... 4 Child Fickeisen 1901 - ............................... 4 Harmon Fickeisen 1905 - 1988 ................................... +Marie .................... 3 John Gilcher 1874 - 1874 .................... 3 Carrie Gilcher 1874 - 1950 ........................ +Newton W. Richardson 1870 - ............................... 4 Floyd W. Richardson 1896 - ............................... 4 Viola Richardson 1899 - 1965 ................................... +Ridgeway 1890 - ............................... 4 Clarence Richardson 1901 - 1965 .................... *2nd Husband of Carrie Gilcher: ........................ +Hoff .................... 3 Rhoda Rachel Gilcher 1877 - 1931 ........................ +Edward V. Baumgard 1880 - .................... 3 Katherine Gilcher 1879 - 1961 ........................ +Frank Jacob Baumgard 1878 - 1961 ............................... 4 Infant Baumgard 1901 - ............................... 4 Harold Baumgard 1905 - 1989 ............................... 4 Lucille K. Baumgard 1905 - 1959 ................................... +Coppage 1904 - ........................................... 5 Dudley Frank Coppage .................... 3 John Gilcher 1880 - 1947 ........................ +Bertha Winland 1882 - 1966 ............................... 4 Raymond Gilcher 1903 - 1982 ................................... +Mary Watson 1915 - ........................................... 5 Myron Wayne Gilcher 1939- ............................................... +Helen Newell ........................................... 5 Harold Edward Gilcher 1946 - ............................................... +Jean Ann Pulley ........................................... 5 Karen Louise Gilcher 1954 - ............................................... +Barry Grace ............................... 4 Bernice Gilcher ............................... 4 Vernon Gilcher ............................... 4 Floyd Gilcher .................... 3 Henry Gilcher 1882 - 1970 ........................ +Ivy Alloway 1880 - 1905 ............................... 4 Lloyd Gilcher 1905 - 1966 .................... *2nd Wife of Henry Gilcher: ........................ +Josephine Dugan 1880 - 1957 ............................... 4 Carl Russell Gilcher 1915 - 1979 ................................... +Dorothy Marie Batteiger Gieling 1917 - 1963 ........................................... 5 Infant Gilcher 1941 - 1945 ........................................... 5 Carl Gilcher 1941 - 1941 ........................................... 5 Carl Robert Gilcher 1944 - 1979 ............................................... +Sharon ........................................... 5 William Gilcher 1945 - 1945 ........................................... 5 Marguerite JoAnne Dorothy Gilcher 1947 - ............................................... +Stephen Harold Burge 1945 - ........................................... 5 Mary Janis Gilcher 1952 - 1952 ............................... 4 Infant Gilcher 1918 - 1918 ............................... 4 Robert H. Gilcher 1918 - ................................... +Marion Unger 1913 - ........................................... 5 Sandra Gilcher 1937 - ............................................... +Roy Golsch 1930 - .................... 3 Mayme Mary Gilcher 1885 - 1955 ........................ +Frederick W. Behrendt 1885 - ............................... 4 Edwin Behrendt 1908 - ............................... 4 Violet Behrendt 1910 - .................... 3 Herman Harmon Gilcher 1886 - 1952 ........................ +Ella Biehl 1890 - ............................... 4 Child Gilcher 1910 - ............................... 4 Ruth Gilcher 1915 - .................... *2nd Wife of Herman Harmon Gilcher: ........................ +Mary Orville ............................... 4 Gilcher ............................... 4 Chyrstal Gilcher ......... 2 Carolina Gilcher 1835 - ............. +Henry Kalner 1830 - .................... 3 Frederick William Kilner 1873 - .................... 3 Edward Kilner .................... 3 Elizabeth Kilner .................... 3 Carrie Kilner .................... 3 Catherine Kilner .................... 3 George Kilner .................... 3 William Kilner ......... *2nd Husband of Carolina Gilcher: ............. +Jacob Schramm .................... 3 Washington H. Schramm 1867 - ......... 2 Elizabetha Gilcher 1836 - 1920 ............. +John Martin Wellbrook 1835 - .................... 3 Fred Wellbrook .................... 3 Martin Wellbrook .................... 3 Henry Wellbrook .................... 3 George Wellbrook .................... 3 Louisa Wellbrook .................... 3 Minnie Wellbrook ........................ +Smith .................... 3 Otis Wellbrook .................... 3 Frances Wellbrook ........................ +Lang .................... 3 William Wellbrook ......... 2 Margaret Louise Gilcher 1839 - 1921 ............. +Jacob Lauer 1835 - .................... 3 John Lauer .................... 3 Jacob Lauer .................... 3 Fred Lauer .................... 3 Mary Lauer 1869 - .................... 3 Louise Lauer .................... 3 Elizabeth Lauer .................... 3 Phebe Lauer 1872 - .................... 3 Theobold Lauer .................... 3 Adeline Lauer ........................ +McQuillen .................... 3 Catherine Lauer ........................ +Perry .................... 3 Sophia Lauer ........................ +Parker ......... 2 Jacob Gilcher 1841 - 1924 ............. +Mary Bartlett ......... *2nd Wife of Jacob Gilcher: ............. +Julia Buertle 1853 - ......... 2 Margaretha Mean Gilcher 1844 - 1915 ............. +Louis Steickney .................... 3 Child Steickney .................... 3 Child Steickney ......... 2 Philippina Phoebe Jacobina Gilcher 1846 - 1929 ............. +John Schuff 1845 - 1913 .................... 3 Caroline Schuff 1885 - 1962 ........................ +Albert Maurice Langsdale 1882 - 1958 ............................... 4 Margaret Louise Langsdale .................... 3 Mildred Schuff 1897 ------------------------------------------------------------- --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ |