Accounting, Anthropology, Applied Communication Studies, Construction (Engineering), Economics, English Language & Literature, Environmental Science
Historical Studies, Mass Communications, Mathematics & Statistics, Philosophy, Political Science, Psychology, Sociology & Criminal Justice Studies, Theater & Dance
With choices of courses in so many departments, a student may have difficulty deciding which courses to take. In Spring 2018, twenty-six of our graduates answered a survey regarding the types of courses that best prepared them for law school in general, and then questions about each specific course. There is something of a disconnect which will be discussed at the end. In general, graduates felt that courses that developed critical thinking and writing skills were the most important for success in law school. The graduates were asked to rank the different areas in importance and responded as follows:
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5h 6th 7th score
critical thinking 13 3 7 2 1 0 0 155
writing 10 7 4 4 1 0 0 151
research skills 1 7 7 7 6 1 0 132
listening 1 4 3 7 5 5 1 100
speaking 0 1 4 5 9 5 2 85
case briefing 1 4 1 3 3 8 6 79
law content 0 0 0 1 1 7 17 38
This supports the information used to develop the minor and the structure we created. You can see very strong opinions on the importance of courses that develop critical thinking and writing.
However, this is how they rated specific courses:
Course | Very Useful | Somewhat Useful | Unuseful | Responses |
ACCT 200 - Introduction to Principles of Accounting | 12.50% | 75.00% | 12.50% | 8 |
ACCT 340 - Business Law for Accountants | 0.00% | 0.00% | 100.00% | 1 |
ACS 200 - Advanced Public Speaking | 33.33% | 66.67% | 0.00% | 3 |
ACS 204 - Oral Argumentation | 33.33% | 33.33% | 33.33% | 3 |
ACS 300 - Communication in Interviewing | 66.67% | 33.33% | 0.00% | 3 |
ACS 304 - Conflict Management & Communication | 100.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 1 |
ACS 305 - Listening | 0.00% | 100.00% | 0.00% | 1 |
ACS 430 - Persuasion & Social Influence | 0.00% | 100.00% | 0.00% | 1 |
ANTH 350 - Applied Anthropology | 100.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 1 |
ANTH 366 - Biology of Human Behavior | 100.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 1 |
ANTH 369 - Introduction to Forensic Anthropology | 100.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 1 |
CJ 206 - Principles of Criminal Law | 25.00% | 75.00% | 0.00% | 4 |
CJ 207 - Criminal Procedure | 100.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 1 |
CJ 348 - Law & Society | 16.67% | 50.00% | 33.33% | 6 |
CJ 410 - Judicial Process | 100.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 4 |
CJ 465 - Theories of a Just Society | 100.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 1 |
CJ 398 - Legal Internship | 100.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 2 |
ECON 111 - Principles of Macroeconomics | 11.11% | 55.56% | 33.33% | 9 |
ECON 112 - Principles of Microeconomics | 11.11% | 55.56% | 33.33% | 9 |
ECON 331 - Labor Economics | 50.00% | 50.00% | 0.00% | 2 |
ENG 201 - Intermediate Composition | 0.00% | 100.00% | 0.00% | 1 |
ENG 490 - Advanced Composition | 0.00% | 100.00% | 0.00% | 1 |
ENG 491 - Technical & Business Writing | 100.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 1 |
HIST 201 - US History & Constitution | 75.00% | 0.00% | 25.00% | 4 |
MATH 223 - Logic & Mathematical Reasoning | 100.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 1 |
MS 250 - Mathematics Methods for Business Analysis | 0.00% | 50.00% | 50.00% | 2 |
MS 251 - Statistical Analysis for Business Decisions | 33.33% | 33.33% | 33.33% | 6 |
PHIL 213 - Introduction to Deductive Logic | 50.00% | 50.00% | 0.00% | 2 |
PHIL 320 - Ethics | 50.00% | 33.33% | 16.67% | 6 |
PHIL 321 - Ethics in the Medical Community | 0.00% | 0.00% | 100.00% | 1 |
PHIL 348 - Law & Society | 50.00% | 0.00% | 50.00% | 2 |
PHIL 441 - Modern Political Theory | 50.00% | 0.00% | 50.00% | 2 |
PHIL 498 - Legal Theory | 0.00% | 0.00% | 100.00% | 1 |
POLS 292 - Legal Research, Analysis, & Writing | 50.00% | 50.00% | 0.00% | 2 |
POLS 300 - Introduction to Political Analysis | 10.00% | 50.00% | 40.00% | 10 |
POLS 390 - The Judicial System | 100.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 9 |
POLS 391 - Philosophy of Law | 100.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 1 |
POLS 392 - Law & Society | 0.00% | 60.00% | 40.00% | 5 |
POLS 410 - Legal Internship | 100.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 6 |
POLS 424 - Administrative Law | 0.00% | 100.00% | 0.00% | 1 |
POLS 484 - Classical Political Theory | 0.00% | 100.00% | 0.00% | 1 |
POLS 495 - Con Law: Powers of Goverment | 83.33% | 16.67% | 0.00% | 6 |
POLS 496 - Con Law: Civil Rights & Civil Liberties | 80.00% | 20.00% | 0.00% | 5 |
POLS 497 - Environmental Law | 0.00% | 100.00% | 0.00% | 1 |
PSYC 206 - Social Psychology | 50.00% | 0.00% | 50.00% | 2 |
PSCY 208 - Cognitive Psychology | 100.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 1 |
PSYC 320 - Intro to Industrial & Organizational Psychology | 50.00% | 50.00% | 0.00% | 2 |
PSYC 365 - Group Dynamics & Individual Behavior | 100.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 1 |
PSYC 431 - Psychopathology | 100.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 1 |
STAT 107 - Concepts of Statistics | 66.67% | 33.33% | 0.00% | 3 |
STAT 244 - Statistics | 42.86% | 14.29% | 42.86% | 7 |
Only 51 of the 70+ courses available in the minor are listed above because the students who responded did not take some of the courses. Also, only three of the students who responded pursued a pre-law minor -- for many the minor did not exist when they enrolled at SIUE.
Some of the oddities/inconsistencies: First, writing skills are ranked as very important to being successful in law school, yet there are only three responses related to English courses. The most likely answer for this is that many students who went to law school either tested out of or got dual credit for their English courses and then did not take additional courses at SIUE. Given the survey, students that are not highly confident in their writing skills should take those courses included in the minor. Second, there is an inconsistency with how lowly rated "law content" was for preparing students for law school as compared to the usefulness of the two legal intnernships (CJ 398 and POLS 410), the two judicial process classes (CJ 410 and POLS 390), and the two constitutional law classes (POLS 495 and POLS 496). The legal internships and judicial process classes are probably considered beneficial because they provide context for the law classes. An understanding of terminology and the legal process ensure that the first classes in law school are not alien and scaffolding is in place that makes it easier to organize the vast amount of information presented in the first year in law school. The two constitutional law school classes are not important for the content (those taking the survey pointed out that you will learn that in law school), but for the manner in which they are taught. Any class conducted in the manner of law school, that requires you prepare for class in a similar manner, and then also has exams that are of a similar form as law school's would probably be rated as useful. Students interested in law school may review the course list and see which classes will prepare you, not for the legal content, but for the style you will experience in law school. Third, when evaluating the usefulness of these classes, make sure to look at the number of students responding. The opinion of a single student may not all that helpful.